A Facebook Post About SCOTUS and Trump

You may have seen the post by @RetroAgent12 (RA12), or read my recent blog post on the topic. However I posted RA12’s comment on my FB page and received some replies on it. Of course, I’m going to redact the name of the person in this exchange; however I wanted you to be able to read it, and see what people are thinking.

If you think I got something wrong, let me know.

Original Post

This is NOT my quote. However it perfectly describes what I’m thinking. It’s from @RetroAgent12 – presumably from Twitter. Not sure where, exactly.

To everyone cheering on Trump for ignoring court rulings:
Imagine a future left-wing president declares a national emergency on gun violence, bans AR-15s, and signs an executive order instructing the ATF to confiscate semi-automatic rifles from gun stores. A federal court blocks it, citing the Second Amendment—but the president shrugs, calls the judges “activists,” and ignores the ruling.
Would you still be okay with that? Or would you suddenly rediscover your love for the rule of law? This isn’t about immigration or Trump. It’s about whether the rule of law means anything to you—or if you only respect the Constitution when it serves your politics.
You don’t get to scream “tyranny!” over COVID lockdowns or gun restrictions and then celebrate when your guy blows off court orders. That’s not patriotism. That’s authoritarianism in red, white, and blue drag.
You don’t get to pick and choose when the Constitution matters.

-@RetroAgent12

It is here that the replies begin.

Person 1

Did you feel the same way about the J6ers who were denied due process for over 2years while the MSM and Dems/elites plastered their own false narrative all over? They purposely withheld video footage in order to drive their false narrative….Just curious where you stand on that one…….

Don Teague

I did look into that, and from what I can tell, the J6 defendants did receive due process. They were arraigned, had access to legal counsel, and went through the courts—just like anyone else charged with a crime. The idea that they were all held without trial for over two years isn’t accurate.
As for the video footage—what Carlson aired didn’t actually contradict the charges or overturn any convictions. It was selectively edited to push a narrative, not to exonerate anyone. Courts had access to full footage long before the media circus. So no, I don’t buy the claim that the narrative was “false.” The violence, the planning, the intent—it’s all on tape.
Happy to go deeper if you have something specific in mind.

Person 1

Don Teague according to a NY Post story from 2023, (which, as you know, is far from “right sided”) the defendants were infact denied their right to a fair and speedy trial. And evidence was infact held from the legal teams for years. And while the video didn’t change convictions in the courtroom full of biased people likely being paid off, it did help change the “false narrative” that had been blasted by MSM for years prior. Not to mention the fact that there were insiders from the FBI actually inciting and instructing people to go to the capitol, in order to help fuel a soon to be narrative. Either way, the hypocrisy is there, on BOTH sides.

(Note: The “Don Teague” at the start of the reply where I was Tagged in the reply. You will see this throughout the rest of the post.)

Don Teague

Regarding trail length: While some defendants experienced extended pretrial detention, particularly those facing serious charges like assaulting law enforcement or seditious conspiracy, the majority were released pending trial. The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to a speedy trial, but this right is not absolute and can be influenced by various factors, including the complexity of the case and court backlogs. The COVID-19 pandemic further complicated court proceedings, leading to delays across the judicial system.​
It’s important to note that delays in legal proceedings do not inherently equate to a denial of due process. Each case’s circumstances, including the reasons for any delays, are considered by the courts to ensure fairness.
About the ‘insiders’: A report from the Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General found no evidence that FBI agents or informants incited the January 6 attack. While 26 FBI informants were present in Washington, D.C., on that day, none were authorized to participate in or encourage illegal activities. The report concluded that the FBI did not instigate the riot, countering claims of federal orchestration. (And IGs are structurally designed to be independent.)

Person 1

Don Teague say and believe what you want, but the fact is, that Trump was dualy elected and in large part bc the majority of Americans can see clearly the bias that is rampant in ALL areas of government, even those that were created to be independent. The witch-hunt was, and continues to be obvious. It’s apparent that over the last 40 years our government has been turned into the largest organized crime ring in our lifetime and possibly history. It has to be cleaned up. Trump can not be bought, he’s not a politician. He’s not perfect but he’s the man for this job. The insiders (both parties) and elites (including media) are scared shitless because they know the jig is up. As for what you believe and see (or choose not to see) is up to you, but luckily the majority of Americans see and understand what’s going on, in spite of the gaslighting coming from the elites (all mentioned above) my point being, that any info or convictions received from the obviously bias judges does not mean much to anyone who sees how corrupt the deep state is. They will literally eat their own in order to get what they want. Therefore what they deem is not believed and is being rejected completely by the majority of Americans. And don’t let the media fool you, those who voted for Trump are still very pleased with how he is handling things……

Don Teague

Likewise what you choose what to see is up to you as well.
The person who was sworn into office is slowly turning this country into a very scary place. And I firmly believe a lot of people aren’t going to realize it until it’s way too late.

Person 1

Don Teague how you’re feeling now, thats EXACTLY how the majority of Americans felt under the previous administration*and why the Senate, House and Presidency is now occupied by Trump

Don Teague

Except the previous administration didn’t deport people without due process, jack up tariffs so high that companies are going out of business, shut down critical functions of government on a whim, or violate the law and shut down agencies created by Congress without authorization.
Had the previous administration done the very same thing, would you be okay with it? If they hypothetical semi-automatic rifle ban was implemented, would you still be okay with it?
If things are done legally, then so be it. But they aren’t being done legally. Trump is literally defying a SCOTUS order right now. He’s claimed he has a right to ship anyone out of the country without due process. It’s not the ‘WHAT’ .. it’s the HOW.
Want to enact stronger immigration laws? Great, do it. Want to remove illegals (good idea)? Great, do it. Want to reduce government? Great, do it. But do it LEGALLY. That’s the point I’m trying to make. He’s taking the rule of law and simply throwing it out.

Person 1

Don Teague the system is broken and has been for years……the gun argument won’t get me, I do believe stricter laws should be in effect on that. I’m actually very open minded about just about every issue.️ As far as the previous admin, there was plenty done without “due process” including but not limited to vax mandates, where people literally lost everything bc they didn’t agree with the mandates. The previous administration sure did let illegal aliens invade our country by the millions. Prices of everything soared under Biden, thankfully they are finally starting to come down now. (Also, it’s been proven that some large companies who back certain parties will purposely go out of business under the other parties “rule” specifically to make that party look bad in an economic way. The tricks (on both sides are obvious at this point) again, the majority of us see through it all now…..

Don Teague

You say things were done “without due process,” but that’s not accurate. During the COVID era, both the Trump and Biden administrations issued mandates or restrictions—but when those actions were challenged in court, they followed the rulings.
Case in point: the Biden OSHA vaccine-or-test mandate was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2022, and the administration dropped it. Other mandates—like for healthcare workers—were upheld. That is due process in action: executive action, legal challenge, judicial review, compliance.
You might disagree with the policies—and that’s fair—but that’s not the same as those policies bypassing the legal system.
Same goes for the economy and immigration. It’s a complex picture, and there’s plenty to criticize, but let’s at least start from factual ground.

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